Mr. Fred McBride:

Yes. It was very ad hoc. At least we have tried since Tusla came into being to standardise that rate. One could argue that it is too high but we have a rationale for how it was arrived at. We were not able to set it, however, but had to negotiate it. The GALs got around a table with Tusla and negotiated and accepted a rate. We took away the hourly payment they had previously received for the time they were travelling. We negotiated a stop to that.