Mr. Fred McBride:

I am not quite sure how it was determined previously. My predecessor, Mr. Gordon Jeyes, negotiated a rate with GALs of €125 per hour. I do not want to be pejorative about that, but previously I think GALs were charging a whole variation of fees. Under the HSE system, as far as I know, these fees were negotiated locally with health boards and social work teams and departments. It was very ad hoc.