Mr. Ciarán Breen:

Yes. Before we set out the project at the beginning in 2010, we carried out a great deal of research into how we could roll out our project. Having said that, when we rolled it out, we did not come to any conclusion until we got to the end of it and re-evaluated what it had achieved and what we thought the future might look like. We looked at all of the international comparators and the experience in other places and came to a view on the matter. I fully understand Ms Murphy’s position. I have a great deal of empathy for it and can understand that sometimes human behaviour has to be sanctions-led and mandated. We all understand this in terms of behavioural models. We took an overall view. I do not think there is a huge difference between us. If the Oireachtas was to decide this would be mandatory, those of us in the system who are dealing with it at our end and at the practitioner end would obviously get on with it.