Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

It is in there. NAMA is having that discussion. That date is given to the witnesses. Mr. Daly has said it was in a general sense of when the discussion around Brown Rudnick happened. The minute does not say so. It says that NAMA was discussing the success fee or fixer's fee and that discussions around that commenced in April 2013, as part of the overall architecture of the deal.