Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

In April 2013, PIMCO was approached by Brown Rudnick and introduced to Tughans, in the person of Mr. Ian Coulter, and Mr. Frank Cushnahan, who was a member of NAMA's Northern Ireland advisory committee. From their point of view, it was not unreasonable for Mr. Rice to reference a NAMA involvement back to April-May 2013, given that it was the PIMCO experience. That is what that reference in the telephone call is.