Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Regarding the fees, Mr. Daly seems to be saying to Martin McGuinness that NAMA could not have been aware of the matter of a payment to an individual.

I am reading the bit on fees. NAMA said that it could not have been aware of the matter of a payment to an individual. Regarding the previous incarnation of the fixer's fee, though, NAMA had been specifically informed that the payment to Tughans was to an individual. However, NAMA told Mr. McGuinness a year after the event that it could not possibly have known that the payment had gone to an individual.