Mr. Frank Daly:

Did he have knowledge of Northern Ireland debtors? He did. I think there are a lot of people in Northern Ireland who had general knowledge of people who were in NAMA. It was known pretty well around Northern Ireland. We referred before here, I think, to the fact that it was a village and a lot of people knew other people's business. He was not dealing, by the way, with the debtors as I understood it in relation to NAMA debt. Most of these had other debt as well with other banks, with other institutions.