Mr. Edward Mathews:

Deputy O'Reilly has a point. To provide a fair analysis and a fair answer to Deputy Brassil's question, we will need to put to the committee not only the raw figures and the purchasing power figures but also the points we raised about automatic access to career progression, automatic access to specialist working areas, automatic progression to specialist and advanced practice roles, lower staff-to-patient ratios and a much-improved work environment. We have objective data and subjective perceptions which are equally relevant and valid because people are leaving. We can provide both to the committee to assist in its understanding of the overall situation.