Mary Lou McDonald (Dublin Central, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I am just saying the witness has assisted us because of the clarification that, according to Mr. Rice at any rate and speaking on behalf of PIMCO, this idea did not come from within PIMCO but, rather, that the latter was approached by Brown Rudnick in respect of it. That is very interesting. We have established that there was a relationship between Brown Rudnick and Tughans and that it was certainly a core dynamic in the Project Eagle scenario. Have the witnesses ever been able to establish at what stage that interchange between Brown Rudnick and Tughans commenced or how far back that relationship went?