Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 20 October 2016

Public Accounts Committee

2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Department of Social Protection
Chapter 9 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 10 - Roll-out of the Public Services Card
Social Insurance Fund 2015

9:00 am

Ms Niamh O'Donoghue:

Yes, but I will make a point or two. The redundancy and insolvency payment scheme came to the Department in 2011. It had a long tail of debt attached to it. We have added to that considerably because of the number of redundancies and insolvencies in the intervening period.

Pursuant to an audit conducted by the Comptroller and Auditor General in 2013 or 2014, we undertook to engage in an extensive review of the debt that was on our books. We have completed that exercise. Our difficulty is that the majority of the debt is attached to insolvent companies, so we are not in a position to recover it. We cannot write that debt off while the insolvency process is ongoing. It may not be the answer that the Chairman wants to hear, but the number will decrease considerably in 2017 or 2018 because of the number of firms that will have exited or concluded the insolvency process and we will not be able to recover that debt. At a best guess, some 90% of that figure is probably not recoverable.

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