Mr. Brian McEnery:

In actual fact, on 29 September, the chief executive officer alluded to the fact that part of the reason we did not know about Brown Rudnick and Tughans was they were not in the data room once PIMCO had been put out. That was the reason we did not know. It was not obvious to us because A & L Goodbody was accessing the data room on behalf of Cerberus.