Mr. Brian McEnery:

In a subsequent discussion when Cerberus emerged, because we did not want what I referred to earlier as a proxy, I specifically sought assurance that PIMCO was not in the background, just in case. I am trying to find it in the minutes. For all the reasons the Deputy outlined, we did not want to end up with PIMCO coming in through the back door and, thankfully, it has not been the case.