David Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is good to hear. I will turn to section 38 and section 39 organisations and charities and their compliance with Revenue. There has been some discussion on this matter because there have been a number of HSE audits, which have not been good. I will not go into any of the details of the organisations or name them but I tabled a parliamentary question to capture exactly how many Revenue interventions there may have been with charities. For the years 2007-16, Revenue conducted almost 7,500 debt management interventions and in excess of 1,600 compliance interventions with regard to charities. That seems like a very high figure to me. It is 177 compliance interventions every year since 2007. The reply explains the exemptions in place for charities. From internal audits we have seen there were issues regarding salary payments that were not taxed or subject to payroll taxes or that untaxed salary payments were made to employees who were working for some organisations to other organisations. There were all sorts of issues. Is Mr. Cody concerned about that and would he see the intervention figures for that period - of 7,500 for debt management and 1,600 for compliance - as high?