Mr. John O'Brien:

It is a question of people participation, buy in and people attending public fora and meetings and their engagement with the programme. We filled 12 halls last autumn because people believed in and loved what we were doing. There was nobody at the local community development committee, LCDC, meetings yet it had "putting the people first" and have, mar dhea, met the people. It is a question of the people and the farming communities. I liken it to the food pyramid. Leader was at the top of the food pyramid and everything else permeated down below it. Now Leader is in the middle of the food pyramid, it is mortally wounded. I hate to predict it but Leader is dying. Leader is down and the council is now on top of the food pyramid for the photo opportunities, to roll out the councillor for the photo opportunity and the good news story. The council could not wait to get its hand on it, and throw us under the bus and here we are. Anyone here today will face that, and will do the night jobs, the dirty stuff but the photo opportunities will be at county hall or whatever.