Mr. Tony O'Brien:

The Deputy stated in his question that nothing about these previous red flags was ever looked into. In 2006, the issue was not financially related; it was around the supervision of counselling. As has been answered before, changes occurred in that organisation at that time that were understood to have addressed that issue. Those issues are not found to be present today. In 2009 the query was raised as to whether the organisation was a going concern; it was examined and the organisation was found to be a going concern. I know it is possible now, with what we know as a result of Dr. Smith's work, to put all these together, particularly in the context of some of the antics we now know about, and say there was of course a clear evidential trail. I do not believe it was at the time. It is not fair to say nothing was done. It is already on the record of this meeting what was done. Certainly, one could take issue with whether that was enough but to say that nothing was done does not seem fair.