Mr. Tony O'Brien:

My answer will be general and not just about Console. We obviously have to take decisions in real time across a balance of issues. There were alternative possible explanations for the behaviour which would not have led to what we now know. Had we taken precipitative action without having the full facts available to us, we would be aware of the impact on the service. We would also be aware of the impact on the organisation and the charity sector more broadly, particularly in light of our previous experience dealing with things like the Central Remedial Clinic. We would, therefore, wish to be certain of our facts. Bear in mind that at the time in question, as I said earlier, we were satisfied that the service that we were paying for was continuing to be provided. If we had any view that the funds we were providing were not resulting in the service that we were buying, that obviously would have changed matters but that never arose as a view.