Josepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I appreciate that but there seems to be a common theme.

Mr. O'Brien mentioned in his statement that funding to Console remained static between 2006 and 2013 "to prevent the collapse of the national suicide helpline". Pieta House has been in existence since 2003. It confounds all logic that services were not taken over by Pieta House. I do not understand why that was not done and I ask Mr. O'Brien to explain it to the committee, please.