Catherine Connolly (Galway West, Independent) | Oireachtas source

I am not asking this to put the witnesses on the spot; it is to try to understand what has happened. My colleague has just passed me the 2013 grant aid agreement, paragraph 7(5) of which provides that the organisation will permit the executive reasonable access to the organisation's premises and so on and shall permit the executive to carry out inspections of same. I highlight that because the power was there. Mr. Raleigh says it has not been used. The HSE then went through a process of an internal audit and, to put it mildly, co-operation was not forthcoming. Is that correct? The HSE is saying that. I am not talking about Console. The witnesses are saying that co-operation was not forthcoming.