Bobby Aylward (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I was the first person who raised the principle of outside auditing, to which I will now return. I am self-employed and have to pay a good sum every year to get my accounts professionally audited and sent in for tax returns. All those outside consultants are governed by a code of conduct and proper procedures. I believe an oversight body deals with that. I will ask a question that was asked already. Since 2005, when the HSE started giving grant aid to Console, have there been audited accounts every year for those 11 years? Are those audited accounts signed off by the consultant and were they to Mr. O'Brien's satisfaction?

I have a broader question about the 1,700 charitable organisations. Do they submit audited accounts every year signed off by professional people who put their name to them and who have a standard of conduct to adhere to? Does the HSE take their audited accounts as bona fide? If there is a problem or skullduggery - that is probably the wrong word to use - with audited accounts, we have a bigger problem in the system overall.

I have another question.