John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

No, no. Go back. Do not wander off on me again. What is happening in regard to the care of Grace is that the organisation or agency had to care for Grace out of its own funds. You presented a column of funding in order to point out to us that it was not penalised in any way for raising issues around the care of intellectually disabled people. I understand that Mr. O'Brien is going to have a discussion with it and I know he will be fair about it. I think when you look at the funding figures that you quoted in your opening statement, and factor in the work that had to be done and the care that had to be given, you will find that its funding actually decreased over the period. I will not argue with you about the figures, but I am going to ask you to examine that table at some stage and be prepared to inform the next Committee of Public Accounts of the position.

I am just finished now. With regard to the three people who made the decision to leave Grace there - we have covered this, but let us clarify it - I understand that you cannot comment at all about that, but that you have all of the information that led them to the decision that they made. Is this correct? You were able to give us the table of the funding and everything else and other parts of the report.