John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I will explain what I am talking to him about here. I presume the arrangement that is entered into could be classed as a legal agreement, or as an almost legal agreement, setting out how that money would be looked after. As I said earlier on, even though that agreement was in place, she entered care in 2009 with no belongings, no money and no documentation. She had nothing. If one adds it up, one will find that approximately €70,000 was paid in benefit to the foster mother. If that arrangement was there for Grace, how many more people was it there for? Regardless of whether it is a health board document or a Department of Social Protection document, there is a document that should have been signed by the foster parents, the foster home or the respite home. Can Mr. Healy find out whether the HSE has those signed documents for the others? Are they held by the Department of Social Protection? It is important to follow that up. Mr. Healy was very quick to give us the figures for two organisations funded by the HSE, but he could not give us the figures for the clients' payments when he was pursued on it. I ask him to pursue that aspect of this issue with the Departments concerned in order that we can get to the end of the payment piece. We have not got to the end of the payment piece here.