Mr. Tony O'Brien:

Again, this is spelled out in very fine detail in the Devine report. What I will attempt to do is give a general characterisation rather than get into the fine detail, which would take me into difficult territory from the point of view that we have already discussed.

There were decisions at two levels - in other words, two separate sets of decisions at two separate levels - around not allowing Grace to continue but then there was a decision made at a third level which effectively countermanded those other decisions.