Dr. Jen Harvey:

That is absolutely key, we need to be promoting people who are teaching. Teaching quality is complex. Much of Gibbs's work in response to the Green Paper in the UK has looked at what the measures might be. The conclusion he draws is that it is about learning gains as this is the only real measurable piece. The quality of most institutions is determined by the actual funding, the research that comes and the quality of the students which is the prestige of an institution, so one cannot fail. One has to look to measure one's success as a teacher as how one has moved somebody on, so one measures the learning gains. How does one do that? That is up for debate. I do not think they have got it right in the UK as yet, but at least they are discussing it and that is the reason really that this has been put on the agenda now. Nationally, we need to have more discussion.