John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I could make an issue of this but will not delay the meeting. The college just continues doing what it wants to do. The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform is like a dog barking in the distance; it can be heard but, since it is so far away, it can be ignored in the belief it will go away. The threshold of €60,000 applies when it should be €25,000. Mr. McCarthy brings this to the college's attention. I will not say it ignores it. Whoever is here next year will see whether it ignores it. It seems there is a trend right across Government bodies and Government agencies to make themselves look good, by and large, on the day they appear before us, perhaps being half apologetic about what they are doing. The trend is to walk out the door thanking God the meeting is over and say one will go back to business. The bodies do not change their way of doing business. That is an issue for someone. I am only clarifying this in my head so we can take it up elsewhere. It is an issue for the president, who is the accounting officer, and for the HEA, which is responsible for this area. Is that right?