Ms Helen Gilmartin:

The other thing is about the birth certificates. Our four children have birth certificates taken from the adopted children's register. That is fine. The way things are at the moment, that has to be produced for everything like passports, everything significant. They also have the short-form birth certificate, which is the same as the short-form birth certificate carried by every other person in the country. They valued that, because they did not think it was anybody else's business to know whether they were adopted or not in the ordinary scheme of things, going for jobs or whatever. One still needs the long form for the Garda or things like that.