Mr. Michael Lambert:

The research part was closed down and the livestock it had was sold on the conventional market. None of the rest of us got an opportunity chance of buying any of the stock that had been certified as organic. The animals were brought to the local mart and sold off. This is the type of thing that is going on. We are trying to fight a rearguard action. If the regulations had been laid before a committee of some kind, we could have taken the opportunity to discuss with it what might and might not be workable. That would give us some chance but it is not what happens.