Mr. Enda Monaghan:

We think that is where it should start. As producers, we have one or two outlets and feel there is a bit of a cartel. None of us here today went to the local butcher's shop and bought organic. It is too costly for the local butcher; he would have to pay about €1,500 a year for a licence and would have to keep everything segregated. He is not going to do that for maybe 5% of his food sales. If he was given an incentive, if the licence was brought down or if he could avail of an introductory one for a couple of years, then I would have some place to go locally. All the local people would have an opportunity to buy organic food from a local butcher or shop.