Mr. Padraic Finnegan:

Yes. Cattle cannot be killed as organic. They are in what is called "conversion". One is in conversion for the first two years. One is paid at a slightly higher rate for those two years because one has to farm organically, but one cannot sell any organic produce. The conversion period is two years. If many farmers were to leave now, as has been suggested, there would certainly be a major shortfall in the two years before the next round, when much bigger farmers come on stream to take up-----