John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

There is another area I want to ask you about because you have brought clarity at least to the matter this morning and I thank you for that. It relates to the integrated national financial system - I understand that is how you describe it. The last time I asked about this I was told that a proposal had been made to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and that it was generally being considered. You have given us far greater detail and clarity in that you are looking at delivery in five years and a roll-out of eight years. This means the Department is at a given stage now in terms of determining what it wants within that system and how it will operate. Up to now we have had the most evasive answers from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and the same from the HSE. I am pleased to hear now that at least we have got this far with it. However, I had thought it was far more advanced than it appears. You have said the delivery of the system will be in five years. When will we be at the point of delivering an agreed system with the ability to talk to the other systems in place?