John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

It is just to get someone to acknowledge what is going on within the Department of Health and the health services to give us a clear picture and not be afraid of it. That is my concern. Over the years we have seen Estimates that have simply been way too low in the context of the eventual Vote and what was there. It would be good for someone in your position to come out and simply say, "Look, we asked for €15 billion and we got €12 billion, which is totally inadequate." Alongside that presentation we need Mr. Breslin to answer the question as to how many, if any, HSE employees within middle management or senior management are surplus to requirements. Has he estimated that?