Mr. John Teggart:

I will try to cover everything that has been said. Cover-ups and agents still exist today. I agree with what Senator Daly has said about the agents. It was the British State who ran paramilitary organisations and there was collusion by state agents. Statistics indicate that only 350 people were murdered by the British state during the Troubles, which represents 10% of the fatalities, but it had a greater impact. The loyalist organisations were run, managed, armed, secured and financed by the British State, which would increase that percentage of fatalities to 40%. The British State has been involved in killings through collusion, supporting paramilitary organisations and the rest.

Deputy Martin Ferris has suggested that one should lead by example. That is the way things should be, but I have no faith in the British State leading by example. The Taoiseach has called for the files on the killing of ten innocent civilians in a van in Kingsmill. He has said that he would co-operate and do all in his power to get the files released. I do not know whether he has done so, but he has said to us that he is leading by example. Let us hope that the British State will listen and come through for us.

I will finish off with a point about the historical investigations unit, HIU, and the Ballymurphy families. I will reserve judgment on the matter. It will be a long time before any conclusion. As Mr. Kelly has said, our witnesses are dying and those who carried out the murders are dying. This tactic has been used along the way. Anyway, for people like ourselves - it applies to the Bloody Sunday families as well - there are younger people and the next generation to consider. They are asking questions and they are going to carry on the campaign. It is not only for me. We need to get answers for the next generation and bring to a conclusion what we have been campaigning for all these years.