John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Can I then ask you in relation to the relationship between IBRC and senior officials in the Department of Finance? And I want to reference, which I did with Mr. Aynsley, The Sunday Business Postfrom 26 April 2015 where there was a quote from Mr. Aynsley, where he said, "I don't think it's a secret that I don't get on at all well with John." The "John" in question being Mr. Moran, the former Secretary General of the Department. Were you aware that, as Mr. Aynsley described, that his relationship with Mr. Moran was as bad as that?