Eoghan Murphy (Dublin South East, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

And, just staying on that issue, just one last question. Do you recall any conversation between Kevin Cardiff and the ECB when - we're later into November now, this is negotiations and discussions - and the ECB had its own legal advice on whether it was constitutional for Ireland to impose burden-sharing and Mr. Cardiff retorted that, you know, we could have a referendum if we needed to. Were you there for that conversation, do you recall it?