Eoghan Murphy (Dublin South East, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Okay. And just then to note that from September 2004 to September 2007 Irish lending grew by 284% - so that's €13 billion to almost €38 billion - and this was on loans advanced ... It was on loans advanced during this period that Anglo took its heaviest losses and you were MD of lending for most of this period, so what do you say to that?