Mr. Alan Gray:

So in relation to the Department of Finance and the Taoiseach's Department, Indecon, as you know, which is the research practice I lead, is one of the largest groups of research economists in Ireland. Similar to the ESRI, we would tender for projects. We've never been awarded projects except by public tender from those organisations. My understanding is, and I haven't checked all the detailed records but, from memory, Senator, I don't think we did any work at all for the Department of Finance or for the Taoiseach's Department when I was on the board of the Central Bank.