Mr. Alan Gray:

And I did not think there was any issue about it being, you know, behind closed doors. Most meetings that I would have with Government Ministers would be behind closed doors. You know, in general you don't have them out in open, but I didn't think there was any attempt to hide the fact a discussion was proceeding. If there was, you know, one would hardly choose a public golf course hotel to have an open discussion and dinner. It wasn't in a private room in the hotel, it was in the general just-----