John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Yes. Well, I don't want to rehash the statements or the references that have been made by the first two speakers, Senator Barrett and Deputy Murphy. You would have been portrayed in the media, in some of those books that were published and other articles, as being somewhat of an enforcer for the line. I suppose, to use a political phrase, one could equate you with a chief whip kind of role in terms of how you were portrayed at least in the media. Is that an accurate portrayal do you think? Outside of the three references that Senator Barrett made to those particular meetings that took place, were there other similar events, and did you see that as part of your function? Were you acting off your own bat or was that something that you were instructed to do?