Michael McGrath (Cork South Central, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Okay. Can you give us the background to that because, obviously, those are very sensitive issues that were being discussed by Mr. Kenny, as Leader of the Opposition, and you - information which may or may not have been accurate or I don't know the provenance or where he would have got the information. But can you give us the background to those conversations? So were there two conversations? Were there more conversations at that time between you and he?