Kieran O'Donnell (Limerick City, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

And can I ... just two quick questions. What ... who would have been ... when ye were looking to demutualise ... two quick questions, why didn't you demutualise like other bodies where they demutualised, sorry, they went for the five-year period? Why did ye push so hard so that ye could demutualise overnight and who was the intended ... who would you have seen as your intended purchaser ... as a takeover ... to buy out Irish Nationwide Building Society at the time?