Mr. Michael Walsh:

To be honest, you know, all directorships and all boards are actually very different, you know, I mean. Shall we say, in my very early days, I mean, I was on one particular State board, which probably should remain nameless, but, you know, almost the objective, I think, in that particular case was to give the non-executive directors so much information that you wouldn't know where to actually look. I would say in most, you know, commercial boards - and, you know, I've been involved in a wide range of them across a variety of different sectors - you know, the board actually are pretty focused in terms of what are the important things from their point of view. In the society's case-----