Mr. Fintan Drury:

I recognise that. The majority of people there happened to have independent roles, completely separate to Anglo Irish Bank, with the exception of Seán FitzPatrick. The Taoiseach had no links with Anglo Irish Bank, whatsoever. I was a former non-executive director. Alan Gray was a director of the Central Bank and Gary McGann was chief executive of Smurfit Kappa. You are comparing what happened in a very specific instance where I was being asked to perform a duty as a non-executive director and establish whether or not the Minister for Finance would take a call from ... and, in the case of Druid's Glen, that emerged from ... evolved from a discussion that I had had with Brian Cowen which was ,"Your holidays are coming up, you need to ... before you go away, you need to start thinking about macroeconomic issues and can we work together to get a group of people?", and he was-----