Susan O'Keeffe (Labour) | Oireachtas source

Okay. So you did say ... in your own opening statement this morning, you were actually explaining about the convoluted golfing thing and you said, "Look, I saw him a lot". You meant Mr. Cowen. So, obviously, you saw him a lot because you knew him. What kind of things did you talk to him about? Because this goes to the heart of what we've been talking about. Or are you ... you've just told us you talked about contracts for difference with him.