Mr. Fintan Drury:

Okay. I am not in a position ... First of all, Chairman, I'm not in a position to recall all the people. No. 1. So if I was to name people who I recall that's, I think, not particularly ... you know, not fair or not reasonable. I think the point I was making in describing it as I did this morning, Deputy, was this was something that had been in place for quite some time and the timing being ... the timing being what it was, you know, it was Brian Cowen who I had spoken to some time previously and as it happened, the way circumstances dictated, it fell that the opportunity was on the date it was. And I was trying to create or establish, because it's the truth, that there was no ... you know, it ... we weren't asking for Brian Cowen to meet us at that particular time because we wanted to discuss things with him because actually ... and so we had had a statement like that about it-----