Mr. Fintan Drury:

For the very reason that, despite the fact that I had reservations about it, from a, if you like, a philosophical point of view, Deputy, that I was open to the view, the opposite view, the counter-view, that there are always exceptions, or can always be exceptions to any rule. And that he was a particularly talented individual who had built the bank, largely, and who was revered, again not just in ... in Ireland, but globally with-----