Mr. Fintan Drury:

I appreciate that but the question was framed in such a way as to present what had happened in Druids Glen as being a meeting that I had set up for Seánie FitzPatrick with Brian Cowen. And that wasn't the case. That wasn't the case. So, was I aware of the evidence that Kevin Cardiff gave to this committee? No. No, and secondly, the discussion that we had in Druids Glen in July 2008 was specifically about matters which related to supporting and helping the Taoiseach to get a wider perspective on things.