Mr. Fintan Drury:

I mean, you're jumping from three instances, each of which I have explained in detail, very directly and very bluntly, and you are assuming that because of those three incidents or episodes, which related to one politician and which were very different ... each of them very different by nature, whether people are prepared to accept that or not, that there was therefore a general interest in engaging with the body politic in ... within Anglo Irish Bank. I'm saying to you definitively there was not, and, therefore, I don't know, because I never ... I don't ever recall anyone in Anglo Irish Bank, when I was a consultant to the bank and when I was a director, lifting the phone to me, or asking me to meet them for a cup of coffee, and saying, "We're trying to get to see the Minister for the environment about planning issues to do with some of our client stuff." Never.