Mr. Fintan Drury:

No. I mean, one of the things that was interesting about Anglo Irish Bank as an organisation, and I had worked previously with the bank as a consultant in the '90s. Prior to selling my communications company in 1999, I had quite an extensive involvement with the bank, part of which was to try and work with the senior management to transition, if you like, the bank from its position ... or positioning in the marketplace at that time, to being recognised as being more established, more substantive. And one of the interesting things about that, Deputy, was that there was a very significant resistance at the top level of the bank then and that was still there when I became a member of the board in 2002, to engaging with politics, to engaging with Government, to engaging-----