Mr. Fintan Drury:

If you know Brian Cowen as well as I do ... Brian Cowen is someone who you can give a view to on anything and ... and your view may be passionately expressed. But if Brian Cowen doesn't think it's the right thing, you've wasted your time. And to ... because I think it's an important question in terms of not just his integrity but I'm here to speak for myself, my own integrity. To presume, and I'm not saying that your question does make that presumption, but to presume for a moment that Brian Cowen would have been influenced to such an extent by me or by anybody else in respect of one bank and one bank's interests, that he would take a decision, or allow himself to be influenced in making a decision, in a manner that was not in the interests of the people of Ireland and the State is ... I think for anyone who knows Brian Cowen and anyone of any political hue who knows him well would say "That's not Brian Cowen". Now, it is all-----