Mr. Alan Dukes:

That's what we would've liked to do. In fact, if you look at the documentation you'll find that I think I had sent to the Department some time in advance of the opening of those discussions a draft relationship framework, which they found far too light. But the problem was that it was very difficult to find out where to draw a line between the independence of the bank and the right or the inclination of the Department/Minister to intervene.