Mr. Fintan Drury:

-----and in that respect it's a bit like the question you asked me about the NTMA at the dinner in Heritage House, and you asked me was the NTMA discussed at the dinner in Heritage House. No, it wasn't. Was ... was there a discussion between two parties ... or two people who were at that dinner about the NTMA? I can't answer that. It would be wrong of me to. I can say that Fintan Drury didn't have any discussions at that dinner about the NTMA and, equally, I can say with complete certainty, that at no time over the course of the Druids Glen affair did, did we have a discussion about Anglo Irish Bank. However, you know, did I go out to take a phone call, did I, did somebody leave the ... our company at one stage? Well, I know people did, clearly. So whether there was or not, I don't know. I very, very much doubt it.